Negotiation and the Psychology of the Buyer - The Out of Office Podcast, Episode 4-Negotiation and the Psychology of the Buyer

Negotiation and the Psychology of the Buyer - The Out of Office Podcast, Episode 4

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The podcast features business psychologist Jonathan Cannon and CEO Stuart Dessen interviewing bestselling sales author Gavin Presman about ethical, effective selling. Gavin reflects on his early days selling in markets and how sales has evolved from loud, aggressive tactics to a more thoughtful approach based on listening, adapting, and understanding buyer personality. He describes how training in personality models like four-type buyer styles, MBTI, and DISC shaped his thinking, helping him realize that “difficult” people are often simply different.<br /><br />A major theme is Daniel Pink’s “ABC” of sales: attunement, buoyancy, and clarity. Gavin argues that great salespeople connect deeply, bounce back from rejection, and communicate clearly. He emphasizes that belief in the product is essential; without genuine conviction, selling becomes manipulation. He also stresses the value of better questions, noting that closed or assumption-based questions shut down conversations, while open, curious questions uncover real needs.<br /><br />The conversation also explores how attunement can be built through research, observation, and genuine interest in others, especially in complex sales involving multiple stakeholders. Ultimately, Gavin presents sales as a human, ethical practice that, when done well, benefits both customers and businesses through trust, retention, and long-term relationships.

Keywords

ethical selling

sales psychology

buyer personality

Daniel Pink ABC

attunement

buoyancy

clarity

open questions

customer trust